On Instagram, I found a post for a two-part Win at All Costs podcast featuring journalism professor Bill Mousheys interviews with Patricia Rorrer from prison in December 2019. Patricia seemed like the girl next door but all of a sudden, something snapped, Katrinak later told Wrong Man investigators. The couple moved into Andrews sturdy brick house at 740 Front Street in Catasauqua, Pennsylvania. And why would the judge not let the information about Jerome being a homosexual be known to the jury.. Some people are just monsters. Check out ALL the facts if you feel the need to comment. What definition? I hope she rots in hell. Or did they? Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. "You knew how the abduction would end," Bent said. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. Thank you, this is a very interesting comment. I would bet MONEY that the first baby born to Patricia didnt die of SIDS. From what Ive seen its pretty obvious Patricia did do that to this poor woman and the baby. Owens said because of what Said did, she will never get to see her daughters grow up. Why is this even a question, why people are trying to take out killers into society? The Dallas Morning News revealed that Patricia said, "All I can say is there's going to be justice," after waiting for 12 years of pain of losing her children. That woman has no soul. Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. It all gave jurors a lot to think about but only for six hours. Are you even aware theres a strong suspicion that evidence of the hair, which was DNA matched to her, was tampered with? "I hope somebody gets their hands on you and hurt you and do everything you ever did to anybody. Why? Yassein and Islam Said later helped hide Yaser Said in a home in Justin. Curiously after this latest test, the 39 hairs removed only 34 were accounted for what became of the absent 4 hairs? The difference between the cases was that the child was not injured and the individual wrote down the details of the plan in a notebook, but otherwise it seems extremely similar to me. Your position Ive read a lot, Im right; you disagree with me, Ill say youre a moron. The state police dropped him as a suspect. Killers can plan all the details and alibis well ahead of the murder while cops must come up with hard evidence, even just to make an arrest. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. Thank you and well said. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. so then using your contention, one who is deeply religious and sees God as being a factual figure is wrong? Emailus. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. SHAME ON THEM. If Patricia had injuries it wouldve only been to her hands and she wasnt questioned right away which is also the reason she took Joanne elsewhere to kill her so her body wouldnt be found for a while and she would have time to return home. she didnt need to . Police were led to the Prues by a business card found in Jenkins' home for Allen Prue's snow-plow business and a report that the Prues had called Jenkins about trouble with their vehicle. Just consider all your nasty posts about others opinions and learn to attack the argument, not the arguer with insults. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting. They are total bs. "We will never again know the joy and love we knew for 33 years," the letter stated. Patricia was relieved when police took him for custody after 12 years of her daughter's murder. Prosecutors said the Prues planned the March 2012 crime: Patricia Prue's computer had been used to conduct online searches for "how to kidnap a girl," the Prues acquired a stun gun, and they bought a prepaid cellphone to call Jenkins to ask for help. Four months after Joanns disappearance, farmer Paul Kovalchik reported seeing what at first looked like a pile of clothes on his land in Heidelberg Township woods, about 15 miles from the Katrinaks house. At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. Finally, another irony you fail to appreciate: you claim theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. Is Dallas becoming unaffordable due to rising housing costs, inflation and stagnating pay? One on one? Everyone lies. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. I am outraged at the rush to judgment displayed by the LAPD, wrote Michelle Alexander, civil rights attorney and author of the influential book, The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindness, in a letter to Patricia. Suzanne Pearson fabricated quotes from Patricia including her claim that Patricia said, Im going to the electric chair upon her arrest because a conviction would boost Pearsons career. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. The person who killed Joann is currently serving a life sentence because 10 months after Joann and Alex died, he killed another woman (who bore a striking resemblance to Joann) and her baby. She asked to speak with Andrew, who was home during the call; Joann refused. Then you claim this is an opinion. In 2016, Oklahoma police arrested the mother, Patricia Spann, now 44, and her 26-year-old daughter, Misty Velvet Dawn Spann, charging both of them with incest. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. That, as well as measurements of the babys head (revealing the infant to be of a more advanced age) very much suggest they were killed some considerable time after what was believed at her trial. They broke up in 1993. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. There is pendency of DNA investigation for Routier. The Free Patricia Rorrer page points to a sliver of a fingernail found at the murder site that didnt come from either Patricia or Joann. Too many people testified as to the type of person she was. Why wouldnt they let any of her witnesses testify? Rorrer killed these two people in cold blood and the jury got it right! At 17, Patricia dropped out of high school and married landscaper Gary Gabard. For this week, I looked into the defenders reasoning as well as Patricias whereabouts today. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. Traupman claimed that when he reported the dispute, trooper Robert V. Egan III got mad and practically kicked him out of his office. Jenkins' family left the courtroom without comment on Friday, but they hugged each other once the sentence was ordered. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. "I'm not sorry we were caught. Contact Elizabeth Murray at 651-4835 or emurray@freepressmedia.com. Maybe then you will see the wrongful conviction! Yes, documentaries probably do misrepresent evidence, and many may respond to that misrepresentation, but beneath that is jury judgment, and while courts can be wrong they are usually right. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. The state made a case fueled by circumstantial evidence and public outrage over the deaths of a modern-day madonna and child. This article can also be seen at crimereport.com. Jealousy was the motive. Owens called him "the devil" and said he deserved a punishment much tougher than life in prison. Thats not proof theyre right but its more likely that you as one person are wrong. Lets stop pretending we can definitively prove this woman murdered this woman and her child. According to Kohlhepp, the RTPD obtained Patricia Koptas DNA sample, then obtained one from her sister and a nephew. Mr Freeman, Why are youre rude about others who disagree with your OPINION (including jury and appeal judges)? Prosecutors say a 911 call from the night of the murders proves that Said is guilty. Not everything is a conspiracy. No way they laid there for 4 months!!!! which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. Crystal Carter is a Bay Area-based reporting fellow with the Center for Media, Crime and Justice in the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York (CUNY). The evidence is overwhelming of her guilt. Whats worse is that shes innocent. Very similar. . Before receiving her final sentence, Patricia Prue, 35, of Waterford addressed the court saying that her biggest regret was not seeking help for her mental health issues earlier. Trash-talking ex. THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. You should be ashamed of yourself. Go watch the Reasonable Doubt episode from last night Patricia did it. WebAmina and Sarah Said were murdered by their father Yaser Abdul Said an Egyptian immigrant on January 1st 2008. After an hour Id call anyone whod listen to me including police! Yaser had been on the FBIs Ten Most Wanted Fugitives list since 2014, according to CBS. On June 14, 1989, Patricia Wright and her 7-year-old son, Alfey, were riding in a car driven by family friend Lawrence Slaughter. "It's been an honor and privilege to stand up and be an advocate for Sarah. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial issues and that Jerome was dying of liver cancer and only had 60 days to live. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 Ms. Patricia Rorrer was a cold woman. In recent years, she began to share key details about her past life in Pittsburgh to nursing home staff that led them to investigate. . Thats all for this post. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Ironically its you who is basing your view on second-hand information, as you were not in court. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. And the obvious answer is not as you claim. Whatever the truth is. They returned with a guilty verdict and a sentence of two life terms. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). because theres money to be made from the commercials added into their show. False. Judge Chika Anyiam sentenced Said to life in prison without the possibility of parole. On a secret recording, Patricia asked Jarrett to vouch for her attendance or she might go to the electric char. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. She is a D-FW native with a B.A. Im a hunter and in the spring I have found many dead deer that died from starvation or other reasons and the bodies are untouched. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. But otherwise, extremely similar, a single bullet fired into the head, the woman later beaten to make sure she died, the hair, which had remained in the bracelet of our victim in this case, the way it was executed outside the house in a wooded area, at the command of the gentleman who did not want to soil his house, and the child who in our case was abandoned in the car. She is right where she belongs for now until she meets satan in the fury of hell. Although I would have liked it to be death! During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. It was Patricias hair no question. I would have liked better her being put to death! On Aug. 31, 2011, at 11 a.m., Wrights family, the Action Committee for Women in Prison, and the FACTS community and supporters gathered in front of Gov. The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. How could I explain to my daughter years later that I took a plea for something I didnt do? she said. I was like OK, maybe she was tired, you know with a new baby. Youre absolutely right!! Andy passed not one but two polygraph tests and had a solid alibi. Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? Until next time, cheers. They need to test that hair from Joanns hand and also that broken fingernail. She believed she was chosen as one of Gods 144,000 bond servants on earth, and gave up all her other hobbies, such as dancing, to devote her life to spreading the word of God. WebIn burst a group of men and women with their guns drawn. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. All rights reserved. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. How so? "You deserve to die now, not in prison. I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. How do you know this woman wasnt obsessed with him and wanted his wife out of the way? Have you watched any of the documentaries Ive mentioned? WebTexas-born Patricia (Tissie) Said, the mother of the two girls, should long ago have been charged as an accomplice in their honor killing. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Police theorize she owned the gun, but its neither here nor there whether she used a particular gun to kill and would make sense (to a wise perp) that the gun couldnt be linked to her by past activity. If the answer is no, enough said! Your email address will not be published. It seems so, according to you. "I want to apologize personally for the fact that my husband wasn't a strong enough human being to admit his wrongs and be able to take his rightful punishment willingly," she said. I finally had to stop reading this stupid article. Its patently clear you are another of those who knows too little about this case. Perhaps she used more than one gun using another/others for the target shooting than the one she killed with (and others shot with her?) They also raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence, including the lack of fingerprints and eyewitness reports the place Said at the crime scene. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. We were contacted by some individuals an agent from Interpol, as well as a social worker from Puerto Rico, that believed that they had her in an adult care home there in Puerto Rico, the deputy said during the press conference. I had never been in jail before and I wasnt allowed to go outside. It took jurors about three hours to convict Said for the deaths of his daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. So we can just pretend that everyone is honest all of the time? There are a number of issues in the case, Kelley said in a letter to his associate, Christopher Darden, including the competency of counsel, prosecutorial misconduct and, of course, compelling legal error by the court.. And its been bad. It is not necessary to the case against her that she owned the killing gun (and it would be foolish to have used it). Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. Instead, he hid for 12 years until the FBI found him in a relatives home in Denton County. She is legally blind, has stage four cancer that has spread to her breasts and her brain, causing her to lose control of her bodily functions, leaving her diapered, and has been given six months to live. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. Dont know from where youve got your information about this case my guess is youve been watching a lot of those documentaries which revel in showing the case in a disgracefully biased manner. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. Joanne and Alex didnt disappear until 12/15. On Alexs diaper bag, police found strands of the same type of hair from the car. But none of those charges ever stuck. Narcissistic and violent tendencies are very common. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Larry Wrights sentence was reduced to only two years in prison with five years of parole. She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. Especially mice! After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. Shes just extremely happy with Andy, her brother, Michael OConnor, told the media. Sure theres DNA, but if she truly is innocent then why not advocate to find the gun. Shes being well taken care of.. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. Judge Richard T. Fields will be presiding over the case and Public Defender Ruby Ramirez will be representing Patricia for the Riverside County Public Defenders Office.
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